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On the subject of noncitizens and apportionment, and for future reference (mine or anyone else's), below are various random links I found based on a quick search. There are probably a few more worth adding. News stories: ABC: Senators Try to Exclude Illegal Immigrants From 2010 Census by Haya El Nas...

Hypothetical scenario: State A has a large number of illegal aliens and State B has very few illegal aliens. Because illegal aliens are included in the population census, State A receives (in the 2010 apportionment) an additional federal Representative that would have otherwise gone to State B . Qu...

I don't have a partisan ax to grind against either side. When we had Republican majorities in Congress I don't think we were any closer to increasing the number of representatives, so it strikes me as false to see conversations on here faulting the Democrats. I agree with all that. Who faulted the ...

Paul, I like where you're going with that. Maybe some analyst has written an article on this subject. I can only think of two sources of information. The first would be from those congressmen who voted against tarp as they probably kept track of the calls & letters in order to justify their posi...

I believe that 50,000 people per district would be yet another crime against the poor people of this nation. They would be the only ones left out of the option to take control of the votes cast on their behalf, as well as their chance to be heard directly on the house floor instead of being a polit...

I would think that another 'mental block' that people have is two-fold: 1.: Where would we house such a large body, and, 2.: How do we meet the payroll for such an enlarged bureaucracy? #1) I certainly agree that they could be mostly working from their home districts, amongst their constituents (an...

Related to your point: in the 2008 federal election, 95% of the Congressmen were re-elected. (No CHANGE there!) Why are the reelection rates so high? Because of the cost of waging a political campaign in massively-sized congressional districts. In the two year period leading of to the 2008 elections...

This is a follow-up to the posting about the freedom indices. In addition to Mercatus, two other think tanks have ranked the states according to their relative levels of freedom. I have analyzed the results of those analyses. Not surprisingly, those states with the lowest level of freedom have elect...

Update from Apportionment.us: " We received word from local counsel in Mississippi this morning that the motion to convene a three-judge panel is granted! " (September 21, 2009). See the Apportionment.us blog . Attorneys tell me that is a big deal. Not being an attorney, I have no idea wh...

Exciting news from Apportionment.us ... On the grounds that the United States government's current practice of apportioning representatives according to 2 U.S.C. § 2a is unconstitutional, a lawsuit was filed in district court on September 17, 2009. The plaintiffs are: John Tyler Clemons Jessica Wag...

Robert P. WHELAN, Plaintiff, v. Mario CUOMO, Secretary of State of the State of New York, Defendant No. 75-C-549 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK A few days ago I added a link to Apportionment.us from TTO's home page. I was thinking of setting up a separate thread o...

I am always amazed at how the Libertarians can wrap themselves around the axle to avoid the blessings of cooperation. It really gets down to the inability of Libertarian ideology to embrace the concept of insurance. Mike, I know you like to rail against anyone who is not a Democrat but Ocotobox is ...

Paul wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_verbosity

Paul, Octobox's posting is too incoherent for me to figure out what his point is, other than he apparently opposes enlarging our representation. So we'll put him down as "anti-enlargement" (which I did).

I think you're on the right path- be sure to make it very clear that this idea is not just for right wingers or libertarians... You are correct, and you have generally described our strategy. Representational enlargement is truly a non-partisan cause. It's very slow going finding a "celebrity&...

I've had this page bookmarked for months and I'm glad to see that there's finally a community to discuss this in. I've loved the idea from the minute I ran across the website. Thanks for writing! ... but it does come across as a little fearful of educated, elitest-type people- Being somewhat educat...

I need to know how you get this 85%. I thought that the max was Wyoming and Montana. All this is relative to the "apportionment population" as determined by the 2000 Census and the current apportionment. The population of Montana's single congressional district is 905,316 . Wyoming's sing...

Rasmussen is used primarily by Republicans that want to discredit the Democrats. I try to use any poll results that seem credible, and I have found Rasmussen to be credible (or at least as credible as any other polls). But thanks for the conspiracy theory. Interestingly, an independent analysis ran...

But that those are the _ONLY_ constraint that stands in the way of achieving "one man one vote". Currently the disparity in congressional district sizes nationwide ranges from 20% to 85%. Of course, they are supposed to be equally-sized (as required by one man one vote ). That requirement...

...This group of "senators", bought and paid for by the medical insurance sector, have been working very hard to stop health care reform in this country. Mike, I would be most grateful if you would try to make your points, which are valid, without basing them on partisan stands, as it dis...

I would like to start a group in Seattle area with the only goal of getting citizens to endorse this issue. I have many strategies that can be employed. George, welcome!! I don't believe that anyone has yet started a local group for this, and it's just a matter of time before someone does. I would ...

My concern is that those opposed to repealing the 17th amendment will fuel a debate among us on how the appointment of the Senators should be conducted by the states. We'll be busy arguing about that amongst ourselves instead of getting the 17th repealed. Paul, you state that the Governor would simp...

I would like to see senators from the several states be suggested for service by the Governor of a state with advise and consent of the state senate. .... Claude, that is an excellent idea. Is that your invention or do you know if it has been previously advocated? That method bypasses the risk of s...

"Only 44% Say Their Own Congressman Thinks Like They Do" ideologically. (Rasmussen Poll)

Of course, that means that 56% of those surveyed feel that their representative is either more liberal or more conservative than they are.

However, I do want to find a way to show how TTO is a relevant concept. I'm open to suggestions. If we do choose a political subject, I would want it to be one that is not so fraught with emotion and partisanship (like health care). The bailouts might be a good example. They started while Bush was ...

Paul wrote:I don't support returning to the way it was before.

Paul, I don't understand.

Do you want the Senators to continue to be elected, appointed by the states' legislatures, or something else altogether?

If the answer is "C", then what solution do you propose?